yawn....dont care how "prominent" you all were..what on earth does this have to do with such a tragedy??
I was quite surprised to see that capt piries grave has been left in such a state. I presumed this would have been very well looked after. The chaps comments had a point to them that we all disappear to where we came from but I really didn’t expect to see it in such disrepair and actually covered in greenery. Great documentary though. Enjoyed it greatly.
All about privilege on the backs of the real workers who built the ships
I'd just like to say,from the bottom of my heart... Bock and Calls bro Bock and Calls.
das lied am anfang und ganz speziel das klavier und die violine sind fantastisch
How informative! Thank you!
the mirage theory is the only logical explanation why no one on the bridge, nor the 2 in the look out crows nest could see the ice berg until it was too late. That ice berg was completely cloaked. Nothing else logical explains why some 6 or 7 people saw nothing until they were about 500 yards away. Sometime between 9:00 PM and Kmwi74wSv1o&t=9m30s 9:30 captain Smith retired and commanded Liteholler that he be alerted if conditions should change. So apparently the mirage conditions hadn't yet fully developed at that time, of the which they were close to entering the Labrador current. Oddly enough, this is just about the time that the message from the Mesaba was received at 9.40 p.m. warning of heavy ice conditions DIRECTLY IN THEIR PATH. Smith thought they were somewhat out of harms way by adjusting his course some 20 miles south to circumvent the earlier warnings from previous message received during the day. “Certainly the Titanic when struck was far south of what the chart defines as the ‘ice line.’ She was fully 75 to 100 miles south of it.” said Donald Southerland...
Sometime after 10:00 PM visibility began to change and become poor. My guess would be approx. 11"00 PM.........These two critical events is why the Titanic struck the ice berg >1) the accidentally failed delivery of the message from the Mesaba, and 2) the abrupt change in visibility that apparently was not reported to captain Smith, whereas these conditions didn't exist when he retired for bed around Kmwi74wSv1o&t=9m30s 9:30 or there about. The Californian was ahead of the Titanc's rout by 75 miles, and had also received the warnings from the Mesaba, via the steamship Parisian which was about 50 miles ahead of the Californian. Reported by the Chicago Tribune, April 18, 1912.
2 reason why the ship sank 1) even though Phillips had already received 13 or so messages, and the Captain had already made his adjustments according to those he received by steering the ship some 20 miles south to stay clear of the dangerous area, it was still important for Phillips to deliver the 14th message which came in from the Mesaba. The location of that message warned of many large Bergs, and heavy field ice, along with pack ice directly ahead of the Titanic's course. Phillips had no idea how important those coordinates actually were, and it was not his job to know, but rather just deliver the message and allow the commander to discern them by conferring with his charter that was on duty. Sadly, Philips, according to Lightholler, set the message aside and forgot to deliver it to the bridge among all the confusion in the radio room that night. This was a vital message that should have been delivered, I'm sure Phillips felt terrible about this mistake later before he died on the collapsible boat ....note: the messages sent by the passengers were not frivolous, they paid to have them delivered, and it was their wishes.
Phillips was not working for the White Star Line, but rather for a private company whose job was to take messages from passengers and then send them..HOWEVER, when a notice came in to be forwarded to the bridge or Captain, then that took precedence. 2) Captain Smith had retired for the evening shortly before Lightholler's shift ended. The orders were to alert the Captain if conditions changed. Lightholler left this same message with Murdock when he retired for the evening at 10 o'clock. Sadly Murdoch did not alert the Captain about the great refraction upon the horizon that was impairing vision. This refraction was confirmed by many crew and members on the ship, along with other log books from of other ships passing through the area. Stanley Lord even noticed it. Stanley Lord said it was a most peculiar nigh indeed, in that the conditions were very unusual, whereas one could not tell were the horizon ended and the sky began. Also, one of the passengers testified that the ice berg he saw after the collision vanished away from his sight at about 150 yards. Yes, it could have been in reality some 300 yards, however this is further proof that the berg was severely cloaked by a enigmas mirage condition... Again; Stanley Lord said it was a most peculiar nigh indeed, in that the conditions were very unusual, whereas one could not tell were the horizon ended and the sky began..
“The night was so clear,” said Donald Sutherland, the wireless operator of the Parisian , “that the Parisian’s lookout several times mistook stars on the horizon for ship’s lights.,,,, Again; a most peculiar night said captain Lord....navigators agree that the condition was unusual, that constant northeasterly gales had driven ice hundreds of miles further south than is usually to be expected at this time of the year. Usually the greatest danger from ice bergs is to be found in May and June and even as late as July in the transatlantic avenue in which the Titanic was traveling through.
Its my belief that Lighhollers statement "that if the captain was awoke that he would have slowed the ship down and very possibly stopped it altogether for the night. and waited for daylight to proceed"........so in conclusion; Smith thinking he was out of harms way, was unknowingly heading straight into a dangerous ice area.... A true fluke indeed, because they probably could have hit that berg a 100 times at most all angels and still not taking out 6 compartments, thus would have remained afloat long enough until a rescue ship came..a real long shot indeed. No ship other than the Titanic has ever had a collision and taken out 6 water tight compartments, ... side note: Philips stayed at his post to the very end> Very honorable. And Murdock must be commended for his excellent steering of the vessel under such immediate and extreme conditions having only seconds to react. AND he never reversed the engines, and the ships maneuverability was excellent , and would be considered satisfactory even by today’s standards also,,,.....
If the metal wasn’t soft because of the fire I wonder what would have happend
How. An anyone feel good about the titanic? If it was never built all those children, women, men, whole family's would not have died that way!!!
My Titanic link... I'm alive today because my great grandfather was a raging alcoholic. He had been living in America for a few years but was originally from Ireland and had gone back to attend to a real estate matter. He went over on the Olympic and was booked to return to the States on Titanic. Well he got black out drunk the night before he was to depart and missed the ship. Thanks to poor record keeping he was assumed to have been on board and my great grandmother was informed that he was lost in the sinking. She was absolutely devastated to the point of being hospitalized. You can imagine her shock and elation when he finally turned up. He was four weeks behind schedule but was still alive. He passed away in 1976, eight days before I was born and was still a heavy drinker to the end. So not only did his drinking most likely save his life (he would have been in 3rd class), it is the reason that I'm sitting here today.
The music makes this intolerable.
Finally one i havent seen..no idea how i missed this one
15 minutes in and I'm sick of this pathetic show of 'lets pat each other on our rich backs for being half arsedly related to lord Piri'. Go get your own lives.
What sickeningly smug and bone-headed people to so carefully and narcississtically associate themselves with the equally bone-headed ancestors who oversaw the design and building of the most stupidly and, one can say, catastrophically designed ship ever - a ship that could not help but reassure its victims that it was so brilliantly made, when it wasn't, that it could not sink, when it could hardly do anything but. This ship was a tarted up whore luring people to their deaths. How the hell could anyone with even half a brain be proud in any way of such an accomplishment? This ship barely got out of its first port without causing a calamity, and it wasn't its fault it didn't happen. Its so-called water-tight compartments were anything but water-tight and its lifeboats were actually death traps for all the people they could not take, while so many who had bought into its farcical image were convinced there was hardly any need to abandon her since she was a lifeboat herself. So long after her deficiencies were exposed for all but the most idiotic to see, how could anyone be proud in any way of the greedy bone-headed neanderthals who created her as though she was somehow even better than they were, a class even above their vapid, mercenary, unimaginative, nearly psychopathic class? The saddest truth about the Titanic is that that tub now sits and lies where she belongs - beyond the ken or sight of anyone who isn't stupid enough to want to risk their lives to see her in all her crustacean glory. She was the Tower of Babel of her day, Sodom and Gomorrah rolled into one, the wreck of so many hopes and dreams and Lord Pirie's rustbucket he was so sure would be his pot of gold. What a farce. What a tragedy. But, oh yes, by all means, let's send in the clowns, and let us all praise famous men.
Why did these big shots of their day let this ship even set sail from Belfast with an active fire smoldering away in one of its coal bunkers? A fire at sea will somehow doom a ship to the bottom just about every time. Titanic was no different. It was doomed before it even left Belfast.
Was thei not two architect of the the Titanic the orignal architect & true designer was completely ignored. The ship was almost finished when he left over an argument about the amount of lifeboats. He never worked for H/w again.
Only a minute into viewing and I'm tearing up. The children and their lovely lanterns are so adorable and their words are lovely. It's true, it's not about looking back, but without history, we can't learn from the past and create a better and safer future. The legacy of the Titanic disaster lives on to this day, and with the international ice patrol still at work, shipping through ice is much safer. It's actually making ships too large and heavy that's the problem, them being too big and heavy to stear safely, just look at the Costa Concordia.